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17 March 2002: Restarted the guestbook. The guestbook has not been functioning properly since mid-February 2002; as a result, several comments were lost. Visit the Guestbook Archives (see the link at the bottom of this page) to see previous comments. Now starting the guestbook from zero.

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Tom Wrycza, SSG, WIARNG

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From one Redleg to another, good job Sir. Excellent web site, very informative.

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RAY WUNDER

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I WAS WITH ROBERT PLATT JUNE 10 67 WHEN HE BECAME MIA. I AS WELL AS THE OUTHER MEN THINK OF HIM ALL THE TIME AND PRAY FOR HIM

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tiernan leavy

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Very good job Sir,keep up the good work.

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William J. Overling

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Go get um Joe.

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THOMAS H ROSE

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FASCINATING garwood is a punk. trying to rehabilitate himself. I read SPITE HOUSE nothing but GARBAGE

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MICHAEL STEVENS

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I served as Administrative Support Specialist For Gen Eugene F. Tighe, Director, Defense Intelligence Agency from 1979 - 1982 while his Executive Officer was Lester E. McGee (COl, USA). One of their active roles was the Vietnam POW / MIA persuit.

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Where is U.S. public opinion? The person who was opposed to the Vietnam War sang at the meeting which grieves for the victims of N.Y. , but they support the retaliatory strike to Afghanistan, and extensive residents slaughter. They turn a blind eye to the invasion to the Palestine residents. Is U.S. journalism a sternway target most in the world? Huntington will win F. FUKUYAMA. Civilization will collide. The world will not be set to one. The paganism civilization in the world is the narrowest-minded civilization in the world of the name of the "USA" . It is the remote district of the international society in the 21st century. If your public opinion does not move, the situation does not change.

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Michael L. Balmer

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Great site. Nice to see someone telling the truth. I was in 56 SOW Intel in Thailand during the war. Years later I returned to Thailand and lived there for about eight years. I'd occasionally run into guys working a MIA scam. Pathetic indiviuals. All saying they were retired Special Ops or CIA. At one time a legitimate retiree heard a con artist's bullshit story and called him on it. The guy immediately had to leave for an important meeting. We all had a good laugh. Once a Major came through Chaing Rai checking on some leads. He showed his ID and told us that they had found no evidence of MIAs still being held. He was following a lead on a guy in Laos. Said he heard the guy had a family and had voluntarily decided to stay in Laos after the war. Said he was on his way to confirm it. He was the only legit guy I met. Also nice to see you're exposing the Bo Gritz fiasco.

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CWO4 David E. Mann, USA (Ret)

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Hi Colonel, you are still doing a great job! Fraternally, "Misterfixit"

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William J. Overling

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Joe, I have been familuar with your web site for a couple of years now. I pass it out to anyone I meet who has an interest in the POW/MIA arena. I just want you to know that I appreciate the efforts that you do to spread the truth. Keep it up and remember that there are those who support what you do.

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TERRI L BLOOD USMC

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NOT VERY MANY WOMEN ADDING HERE. OUT IN 1984 AND STILL 100% DEDICATED. WORKING AT A V.A. IN N.Y SEMPER FI

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TERRI L BLOOD USMC

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OUT IN '84' AND REMAIN 100% DEDICATED. WORK IN A V.A IN UPSTATE N.Y. SEMPER FI...FRENCHIE

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Linda Oliver

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I think this is great, I just got my second braclet last month, don't let them be forgotten..

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ChaplainJohntimothy Hager

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Thank you for tis information site.

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DELYNN R. "BUTCH" COLE

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10 APR 02 42* F NATO HQ. SARAJEVO, BOSNIA. SURFED ON TO THE SITE, LOOKING FOR DAO STUFF. MY WIFE (VN) AND TWO CHILDREN LEFT TSN 9 APR 75. REALLY ENJOYED THE MATERIAL. I AM NOW DRINKING A COLD BEER, NASTRO AZZURRO, PERONI ITALIAN BEER. FROM MARCH 1974 TO JUNE 1975 WORKED FOR THECOMMICATIONS-ELECTRONICS DIV., DAO SAIGON, COL. ELMER GRAHAM COMMANDER. NOTA BENE, I REMEMBER A MSG CIRCULATED IN THE WANING DAYS, LISTING APPORXIMATELLY 400+ PERSONNEL AS DESERTERS, FROM THE MILITARY. I HAVE A KEEN INTEREST IN MIA'S, AND OFTEN WONDERED ABOUT DESERTERS. LOOKING FOR GEN. MURRY AND SMITH, COL.GRAHAM AND GUYTON AND LEGRO. NAME AND STATUS OF DAO GENERAL COUNSEL, JAG CIVILIAN?, AND ANYONE ELSE WITH THE DAO AT THAT TIME. SINCERELY BUTCH COLE

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Lawrence Mc Clatchey

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Thank you for explaining in normal everyday language what I, and most ordinary people would like to understand.

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Sue Finley

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Very interesting reading. Intend to finish it all, although it may take awhile. I've read quite alot on the subject over the last 10 yrs.from a variety of sources. Mr. Schlatter, might I suggest that the personal attacks on people involved in this issue is not exactly helpful. It shows a level of immaturity that I find very surprizing in a retired officer. I am familiar with the efforts of Col. Peck, Red McDaniel, and Sen. Bob Smith. I have found no reason to question their motives or their sanity. They seem very sincere and genuinely concerned about the fate of our missing men. I'm convinced there are individuals who are attempting to take advantage of this issue and they should be exposed. But in my opinion the above mentioned men are not in that group. I have nothing but respect for them. As the daughter of a Korean and Vietnam War vet, I suppose I'll stay interested in this issue for a long time to come. Until someone is allowed to search every inch of China, Vietnam, North Korea and Laos, (unannounced) no one (including you Mr. Schlatter)can be absolutely sure that everyone came home. I pray, as everyone else does, that the families of these missing men find peace and closure.

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Jane Slinger

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Thank you for your hard work. I had a MIA Braclet,I got it it a class in high school in 72 I wore it untill i got mairred. And had a child in 1989. And then I put it in a little box. I thought of him LT FRANCE SETTERQUEST 8-29-68 I pray for him and his family.Then I saw his name on the wall. I got a computer in 99 and the first thing I did was two Look up Mr SETTERQUIST to see what I could find out. Long story short .He had a son two months befor he left to go to Nam. Name Scott, I found him talk to him. He had just had his firt child a boy. I sent him the bracelet and the Info I had about his dad. The fact there a large site just for him. I will always think of LT FRANCE SETTERQUIST the rest of my life . The teacher that got the bracelets for us wanted to make the war real for us .The war end two years later. But I always watch the body's coming home hopeing my guy's name would by there. I did not want him dead. But if he was I wanted him here at home under US soil so that he my rest,his family may rest.

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Kim Higdon

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This site is a crock! YOU are one of the reasons so many of our Brothers and Sisters were left behind! Shame on you.

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David Cook

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Sir: I cannot condone your personal attacks upon some folks listed in your pages. Some of them are truely mistified by your venom and would like an actual debate and comparison of the source data. There are scam artists out there, but not all of the folks you attack are part of a Myth Conspiracy. They have honestly expressed their concern and support. Open and honest debate "MISTER" Schlatter, your tyrant days are over "COL"!

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James P Brinker

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To All: I was a close friend of Donald L Sparks in both High School and at Iowa State. Don was missing in action 6 months before I went to Viet Nam. I am ashamed to say that I had given him up for dead. Only after returning from Viet Nam did the information come out about him writing letters that prover him to be a POW. It will always be hard to lable him as dead. I was fooled once. One thing for sure either he or his body is in VietNam and someone there should know what happenned. James P Brinker Recon CO E 2/502 101 Airborne Div. 1970

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Edward V. Wahmann Jr

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I like the site very much. I was hoping that there was a way to look up information about the MIA bracelet that I have. Is there a web page to look up information on the person that I have or do I have to just send it to the address on your web page. Thank you so much for taking care of our Veterans. Ed Wahmann

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Bill Grice

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The past few years I have become very interested in the Vietnam war, and have realized that we the public did not really know what was going on in SEA,I am 68 and now understand (I think)just how bad it was,my understanding is that there were 150 plus Canadians that fought in Vietnam and stood tall.I am also sorry that you have had to produce a wall of shame for Wanna be's

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Patricia Mielke

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Please visit: http://www.geocities.com/mypagemaker/ Bobby Garwoods' name is on many pages of The Library of Congress documents that I have concerning MIA, James T. Egan Jr. MIA 1/21/66. On 1/22/66 Russ Grissett went MIA as he searched for Egan. Egan and Grissett were in the same unit. Since Grissett and Garwood were held together I am trying to find Garwood. I am hoping that he may shed some light on Egan's fate. Grissett might have talked to Garwood about Jim Egan. I had 'hoped' that Egan's name or a reference to his disappearance or status was in the BOBBY GARWOOD story/movie. There was none. Please, I am not making judgements, I am not trying to 'intrude' I am only trying to learn what really did happen to Egan. If he is still alive, I pray he is returned home. If he was executed ( as The Library of Congress documents claim ) I pray his remains are found, ID'ed and returned home. If by any chance Garwood himself should read this, please contact me. Of course, since I know there are many cruel people online, we would 1st have to determine a way to 'prove' you are Bobby Garwood. Any help concerning Egan from ANYONE would be greatly appreciated.

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wayne johnson

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We need to keep everyone aware, our family members are not all home yet. Hopefully they will be one day.

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chuck kerr

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In 1971 I had the distinct honor of serving in C/1/506th Inf. 101st Abn., in I Corps, South Vietnam. I served under then Capt. Mark A. (Zippo) Smith. "Zippo Smith" was and is the most honorable and brave man I have ever known. My opinion is shared by everyone who has ever stood beside him in a fire fight, or served under him in an infantry unit. There are those who would attempt to degrade him. I have met such people. The common thread I have found amoung them is that they themselves are lesser men, and find extreme discomfort in their own inadequacy. I have read this web page. It's just more of the same. God Bless "Zippo Smith," he is a man of truth, and the truth will always win!

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Chuck Kerr

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In 1970 I had the honor of serving in C/1/506th Inf, 101st Abn., in northern I corp, RVN. I served under then Capt. Mark A (ZIPPO)Smith. "Zippo" Smith is perhaps the most honorable, true, and brave man I have ever known. This judgement is shared by everyone I have ever met who had the honor of standing at his side in a fire fight, or serving under him in an infantry command. He may look different through the eyes of a REMF, but to those of us who faught with him he is a genuine American Hero. It may be true that he was not the best stateside (read ass kissing ticket punching) officer. I have no knowledge of that either way, but I can assure you that Zippo Smith is considered the best Company Comander in the 101st Abn in 1970, by those who faught with him, and those who commanded him. Ask any member of C/1/506th, 1970, or ask retired MG Bobby B. Porter, he was our Bn. Commander in 70. Ask retired MG Ben Harrison. Don't ask some REMF desk jocky to rate a combat commander, ask a warrior.

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Joe Schlatter

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This message is to "Chuck Kerr." No one is questioning Mark Smith's combat record. The problem with Smith started when he was assigned to SFD Korea and became involved in questionable activities, leading to a CID investigation. He went downhill from there and to this day he is a major source of falsehoods on the MIA issue. His actions relative to the MIA issue are dishonest and untruthful and his combat record will not change that fact. And be careful when you refer to anyone as "REMF" -- you display your ignorance.

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Charles Moy

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Former: Sgt,E5, Squad Leader 106MM,R.R. Served: 1961-1964,Ft. Riley, Kansas Units: Co.A, 2 Bg. 12Th. Inf. Reg. 1961-1963 Co.E, 1St Bn. 16Th. Inf. Reg. 1963-1964 Both these Units were part of the 1St. Infantry Division"THE BIG RED ONE". During this...Cold War Era..period. Would greatly appreciate any information about, or responses from former members of either of these units. The 2/12Th. was disbanded at Ft. Riley, shortly after I left. The 1/16Th. went to Vietnam after I was discharged in 1964. Fellow members of that outfit would have been there 1965,66, possibly 1967. [email protected]

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Dick Guild

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Thank you for your service in exposing the cruel and heartless ted sampley.

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Richard Barker

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I have reviewed your web site as well as Marks and found both to be disturbing. In order for those who may read this entry to understand why I say this I will provide you with a little background. Mark Smith and his Lawyer called me, several times, in 1986 concerning his law suit and hearings, I remember him as a gentleman and patriot. I have also spoken with Red McDaniels several times over the years and found him to be completely trustworthy, never giving me any misinformation or leaking anything to anyone we had discussed. I have also spoken with Bill Hendon on the phone and had a meeting with him in Bangkok in February of 1995 at the Windsor Hotel. He to was helpful and I found him to be a trustworthy gentleman. I met Bobby Garword once in 1984 and in once 1985. I have also spoken with Bo Gritz on various occasions as well as Scott Weekly who I consider a friend. Mr. Schlatter I do not know you. I think you must have entered this issue well after my departure from it. I do not agree with your analysis but I also do not agree with Marks nor can I prove either of you to be true or false. Although I respect your right to air your views in an open forum I find this disheartening. Im an ex-pat living in a country that does not follow rule of law, living in a country with one party rule, rampant corruption, no free speech, a country where news reports are suddenly blacked out and people fear the authorities. A country where it citizens know nothing of Cambodia except its great ruler Pol Pot was our brother number one a gentle and caring man concerned for the care of his people. A country where the majority of the population wants change but doesnt know where to look for it. Look to the west? Come on the west rewards our powers with Olympic games status, the west issues visas almost exclusively to party members and student union members ignoring the masses and businessmen interested in change, the west even takes our hard-line upcomers and admits them to Harvard. The west cow-tows to our powers demand for money when bombed in Belgrade and loses face with argued spy plane crashes not to mention the west leaving it servicemen behind or maybe not who can you believe. I would hope you both with try to set examples of unity and present facts without slander. Its hard for me to explain agreeing to disagree to people and friends who live in black and white world.

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Jeremy

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Wow! What a great site. It's sad there are people profiting from misinformation and the emotional hysteria about our MIA. Thanks for the facts ...and the guts to take a not so popular stance with those who believe "the gov't cover-up conspiracy "

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Joe Schlatter

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This message is in response to a message left by "Richard Barker," above. I had forgotten about Mr. Barker until I read his message. Barker was part of an MIA scam called by its operators "Operation Wild Fire." The only result of "Wild Fire" was that Mr. Barker spent a year in jail for smuggling 17 pounds of Thai stick into the US. He then attempted to gain his freedom by claiming to know the whereabouts of US POWs. All bullshit. Read about it here: https://miafacts.org/wildfire.htm

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john marts

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Viet Nam Vet 67-68 with the 2nd/22nd Infantry. Great site.Keep it up.

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Chuck Kerr

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I have talked to Tracey Usery, the CID agent who investigated Major Smith. He was the Majors guest at our reunion last spring. All charges against Smith were found to be baseless. I did not call you, a Remf, but it sure seems I sure touched a nerve. We can agree to dissagree on the POW issue. My view will not be changed, because I trust men like "Red" McDaniels, and Zippo Smith. Say what you will, this is America, you are entitled to your public voice. But, understand, I am not so ignorant that I cannot recognize, or understand profiteering.

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Joe Schlatter

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This message is a response to "Chuck Kerr." Tracy Usry you say? Now there's a reliable source if there ever was one. Usry was the principal author of a "report" on MIAs in SEAsia published by the minority on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1991. During the Senate Select Committee hearings, Usry was exposed -- November 1991 -- as having falsified much of the "evidence" about abandoned POWs that appeared in his report. Read the details in "Hearings before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, Part I of II, November 5, 6, 7, and 15, pages 443-447."

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Cindy Hall

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Dick Carey

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Sir: I am founder and president of the USMC Vietnam Tankers Association. Thank you for providing this site. SSgt. Robert H. Gage has been missing since 3 July 1966 he was a member of the 1st Tank Bn., 1st Antitank Bn. He is our association's only MIA from Vietnam. Robert is also a childhood friend of mine. We grow up together in Columbus, Ohio and attended Weiland Park Elementary, Indianola Junior and North High Schools; until Bob enlisted in the Marines our Senior year in high school. Bob's body was never recovered and was eventually declared dead by the DoD. Bob was adopted and I have lost contact with his family. If you know of any information regarding Robert Hugh Gage I would very much appreciate receiving it. Semper Fidelis, Dick Carey President USMC Vietnam Tankers Association

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Pam Imhoff

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Sir! I `accidentally fell` upon your site while searching for POW-MIA merchandise to help promote public awareness of this worst of all travesties within this country of ours, and I must say, you are a strange `bird!` But , I do realize now why nothing was done for our missing men from 1986-1995!!!!!!!! I am sorry that you have suffered for so many years w/ this illness, but our scientists and physicians have come a long way since the Vietnam War ended. And if you `hang ` in there long enough I am sure that they will link `Agent Orange` to your `CRANIAL RECTAL INVERSION!` Sincerely and w/ Great Concern for your Speedy Recovery......... Pam Imhoff

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Joe Schlatter

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This comment is directed to the individual signing the name "Imhoff," above. Thank you for your concern about my welfare. In your case, however, I fear the future is bleak as there is no cure on the horizon for terminal ignorance.

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Pam Imhoff

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Dear Sir............ As "IGNORANCE IS BLISS"..........I shall continue to stay that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With most sincerity.. Pam Imhoff

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kewl site

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Gayle A Hassoun

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My father was in the Vietnam was, I was about 6-8 years old living on an air force base in Japan with my mother and sister. I remember getting these bracelets but not sure when. I am going to look for the men on our bracelets now to find out about them... My parents passed away in 2000. I only have the memories from little things like this......... Love you Dad, Gayle

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Ken Burke

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While he was guilty of collaboration, I do not feel Garwood should have been prosecuted. Whether the military likes to admit it, collaboration on the part of American P.O.W.s was commonplace during the Vietnam War. When the prisoners came home, there was talk of court martialing some, but public sympathy for them was so great the idea was dismissed. As such, Garwood became little more than a scapegoat for a military that could accept the fact that its anti-communist crusade in Vietnam proved a disaster. The same thing could be said about William Calley. For the My Lai massacre he was court martialed, for the massacre John Kerry led he was given a medal!

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Joe Schlatter

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This is in response to the comment by Mr. Burke, above. Sir, you need to read your history. Garwood joined the PAVN, carried weapons, engaged in combat against Americans, and voluntarily remained in Vietnam until 1979. No other American did anything even close to what Garwood did. Bob Kerrey's team was fired upon and returned fire. It was not until after the firing died down did they discover there were civilians among the casualties. LT Calley, on the other hand, had his men round up civilians -- men, women, children, women carrying babies -- and murder them -- and the murder continued for some time.

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Ron Hucks

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As much as we would like to think that more of our Spectre brothers survived , it seems the case is that they did not. As for myself, I can never forget those missions and the people i served with. Many times the names just come back to me. At least there is one thing now that I am glas to see and that is our sons and daughters in the military getting the respect they deserve, that we possibly never had except among ourselves, the veterans of SEA.

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Steve Elkin

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I am a Nam Vet and have been studing the pow issue for a long time. I don"t think you understand he Communist way of thing.Any POW is money to these people. Our own goverment even admitted to leaving men behind!

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melissa

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i think this site is cool

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JEH

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Excellent site, thanks. I've heard many phony POW stories before. Many of them fail the "smell test". I mean, if this guy's POW status is so top secret that he's not listed on PMSEA, then wouldn't his saying "I'm a POW from the 'Nam" be compromising classified information in and of itself? Same story with classified MoH recipients, classified Rangers/SEALs, etc. Also, why would information on a war that ended 30 years ago still be classified? How could Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, or whoever use all that old info against us? They're gonna want some more contemporary info, right? You don't need to know anything special about the US Armed Forces to know that such stories are bogus - you just need to be able to think.

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Thomas D. Reisinger

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22 June 02 I was involved in Soldier Of Fortune Magazine's efforts in Thailand and Laos during 1981-82. Our total monies spent exceeded $300k, all of which came from SOF's coffers, not desperate appeals for funding which insinuated we were on the brink of of snatching some Americans from Viet or Lao lockups. Sadly, despite the several hundred thousand dollars contributed to other "operations" by honorable individuals, there has not yet one shred of evidence produced by any of the "MIA Commandos" which proved their access to any surviving Americans. If any of these "money pits" had --or have -- any evidence, they should get their sorry asses back to CONUS and go public. Time to put-up, boys, you've had almost three decades to get your shit together. Tom Reisinger Assistant Editor Soldier Of Fortune Magazine Formerly Sgt. E-5 with 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne), Detachment A-331, (Loc Ninh, RNV), 1968-69.

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Col. Thomas F. Tapman, USAF (Ret)

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Very interesting and informative.

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Mark Wakeley

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I would just like to say that I really appreciate the work that you are doing, and I still to this day wear the bracelet of Captain Howard R. Cody that I have had since I was 17 and I am not 38. Keep up the good work.

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Mark Wakeley

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I would just like to say that I really appreciate the work that you are doing, and I still to this day wear the bracelet of Captain Howard R. Cody that I have had since I was 17 and I am now 38. Keep up the good work.

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Craig Greenbaum

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I think the time has come to accept the fact that our brothers are not coming home. I was in Vietnam both in the military (a private in the infantry) and a civilian working for a gov't contractor. I've seen a lot of Vietnam and met a lot of Vietnamese. I've returned to Vietnam several times after I left in April 1975. Today the population has grown to such an extent that it is virtually impossible to hide anyone anywhere in Vietnam. The Vietnamese love to share stories and secrets, if the government was really hiding any Americans it would be common knowledge. Today one half the population was born after 1975 and they have very little interest in the war or the politics of the war. Again, if there were POWs being held this information could not be kept secret by the government. The amount of corruption and scandals by cadre and the pursuit of graft by government employees and officials at all ends of the governmental spectrum tend to convince me that if there were any truth to live POWs, this information would be for sale by everyone that had any knowledge of it.

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ANDREA ST. LAURENT

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TO ALL THE MIA/POW MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES WITH HONOR AND DIGNITY, WE THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEART FOR OUR FREEDOM IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN

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Paddy Riley

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Hey Schlatter. I have not been on your website for over a year. I see you are still spouting off your usual BULLSHIT. It seems to be your policy to try to discredit anyone who disagrees with you or has a different opinion. You cannot say without certainty that there are no live MIAs left in SEA, however, probably in 5 - 10 years you will because then they will be all dead. I noticed how you pounced on Richard Barker. What if he is telling the truth. Maybe he was framed. That ever cross your mind. Or, do you really believe that the CIA would not do that. Nice talking to you again. Have a nice day. I wonder how you sleep at night and look at your face in the mirror every morning.

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i done bomb this site

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Diane Hullinger Callahan

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I was looking for facts about my father Edwin Hullinger who was taken by Tcheka in 1922 and then released. It puzzles me that the name is so alike my father's name. He was United Press Bureau Chief at the time in Moscow and was detained for writing what he considered to be the facts re Russia at the time.

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I have over the last few years, been researching the second world war. In this time I have come across many, many reports and declassified documents concerning both American and British pow's, that were retained by the Russians and used as bargaining chips for their own gain, after being liberated from German camps. (A lot of whom I might add, never did come home, even though our governments had proof that they were alive as prisoners of the Russians.) Both our governments had a great deal of trouble in obtaining our country men. Things became so bad, that we had no choice but to send back all Russians, some by force (there are even records that some had children that were born in the USA and Britain) Most of these individuals were seeking sanctuary in our countries, knowing full well what was to await them on their return. It was reported at the time through intelligence reports, the Russians were rounding up their own returning pow's and opening fire on them. The British government was even warning some pow's who wished to return, of the events that were taking place. Unfortunately these people believed in their country and chose not to listen. With this in mind, and the fact that the Russians were so heavily involved in the Viet nam war, I feel there is just cause in believing that men were kept back. After all with jungles as dense as those in Viet nam, Laos and Cambodia, it wouldn't be to difficult to hide them. Jasmine London, England

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This is a message for Craig Greenbaum. This was a new article from TIME Asia: Sins of the Father In Vietnam, there is religious freedom. Pray quietly, keep out of politics and you won't go to jail BY KAY JOHNSON Hanoi Even in the most cynical of times, "wicked" and "traitor" are rarely words that come to mind when describing a priest. But then, Father Nguyen Van Ly is no ordinary priest. The 53-year-old Catholic cleric has already spent nine years in prison, and last week he was in trouble again. Vietnamese authorities detained him in the central town of Hue and jailed two of his assistants. State-run newspapers obediently denounced him; one daily ran a photo of the priest holding a crucifix, under the headline: people's traitor unmasked. In most countries, such vitriol would signal the ugliest of scandals, perhaps involving choirboys. Father Ly's crime? Challenging the government. Last month, the priest sent a letter to U.S.Congressmen urging them to reject ratification of a bilateral trade agreement until Vietnam grants greater freedom of worship. Hanoi's retaliation against Father Ly was swift, but it may be backfiring and could dim chances for the treaty's ratification. Members of the U.S. House of Representatives' powerful International Relations Committee have vowed to bring up the issue in hearings that could start as early as next month. The action against Father Lyweeks after the reported strip-search of a prominent Buddhistdissident and the government's crushing of riots in the predominantly Christian central highlandslooks to some like Hanoi is thumbing its nose at American human rights concerns. "It's just vindictive," fumes Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican on the committee who is vowing to block ratification. "It basically shows complete contemptfor human rights and for the United States." If the religion issue is stirring up trouble in Washington, it's nothing compared with what's going on at home. By most accounts, Vietnam is in the midst of a multi-faith religious revival. Buddhist festivals are common nationwide. And Catholics take their own annual pilgrimage to a site where the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared. Last year, 200,000 of Vietnam's five million Catholics attended. Like China, Vietnam tolerates religious devotion in churches that are under effective Communist Party administration, but the government appears anxious about the rise of renegade sects. The advocacy group Freedom House recently published "top secret" documents it claims are party directives aimed at suppressing evangelical Christianity, the country's smallest but fastest-growing religion. One document, "The Problem of the Enemy Exploiting Religion," describes a purported plot by "U.S. imperialists" to convert ethnic minorities and then encourage them to topple the government. Yet Hanoi insists that every citizen has the right to religion, pointing to its millions of worshipers. Phan Thi Lan Huong is one of them. Surrounded by clouds of incense, the 59-year-old grandmother clutches her hands in prayer in front of an altar ringed with painted Buddhas. She is one of up to 20,000 who flock each day to the Chua Huong Pagodas southwest of Hanoi during the pilgrimage season. "Of course we are free to worship," she says, blinking with surprise. "The government never stops usjust those who have bad practices." The paradox is actually codified in Vietnam's laws: every citizen is guaranteed the right to worship, but "abuse of religious rights" is punishable by up to three years in prison. According to Zachary Abuza, a Vietnam expert at Simmonds College in the U.S., it is not individual faith that Hanoi opposes, but the prospect of a nationwide structure of authority that could topple the party's monopoly on power. Hanoi has thus appointed Vietnam's Catholic bishops since 1975, annoying the Vatican, which recently elevated an exiled Vietnamese bishop to cardinal. There are dissident priests in Vietnam, like Father Ly, but more troublesome are followers of the outlawed Unified Buddhist Church of Vietnam, which won't allow state advisers. "The Communist Party considers churches to be another arm of the state," Abuza says. "Any deviance is dealt with harshly." But not as harshly as before. Father Ly may have been hauled in, "re-educated" and placed under church arrest, but he has not been jailed, as he was in 1983. There are other examples of official softening: Hanoi recently recognized the formerly banned Protestant Christian churches and the Hua Hao Buddhist sect. U.S. Ambassador Pete Peterson, who flew to Washington last week to lobby for the trade agreement, believes blocking the trade accord would send the wrong message. "The greatest thing we can do for human rights," he says, "is to increase economic activity." The Communist Party, for its part, seems to know that persecuting religions can actually make them more alluring. The Freedom House documents, which purport to be the party's strategies for suppressing evangelical Christianity, makes this observation: "The numbers grow slowly if we have a relaxed policy, and if we crack down harder, it grows faster." Even the party is realizing it's difficult to beat anyone fighting a holy war. I think this says it all, anything that could be liable to topple the goverment would result in time spent in re-education camps (prisons). Do you realy think a vietnamies is going to open themselves up to this, even if there is the promise of much needed money at the end of it. I doubt it. If villagers knew of pow's/mia's that remained in their country. I'm sure it would be a case of see no, hear no and speak no. Regards Helen.

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Hey Schlatter. I have never ever met you nor do I wish to but I can say with all certainty that you are a pompous Ass that has no regard for anyone elses opinion and it is because of assholes like you that there are U.S. POWs still in SEA. Many are now buried under the soil but there may still be some alive adn in captivity. You and all your "Factual Bullshit" cannot prove there are not. You sit there on your fat ass and criticisze guys that are trying to do something about it. When it comes right down to it, you sir are a REMF. You were a REMF in Vietnam and you are A REMF in the first degree now.

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This message is in response to two preceding messages from "Paddy Riley." Readers of this page should know that "Paddy Riley" is not this individual's real name; I know the real name and I also know that this person is too much of a coward to let the rest of the world know his/her real name. Now, as for Paddy: Does your mother know that you are playing with her computer?

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As usual you are wrong again Schlatter. I am almost 50 years old so I don't need my mother's permission to go on the computer. Again, you take offence to someone else's opinion. What is it with you? You truly must have been one piece of work in the Army. I bet your men just worshipped the ground you walked on. In actual fact Paddy is my name albeit a nickname and Riley is my last name. I just have one question: Who pays you for writing this bullshit? Don't tell me you really believe it. Anyhow, Joey, have a nice day and a happy 4th of July.

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I have 2 bracelets from the Vietnam War and 1 from the hostage crisis in '79 and 1 from Desert Storm. The two from Nam I found out, didn't make it home but the Desert Storm POW was returned 3/4/91. I don't know about the Hostage named Rick L. Kupke State DEPT.

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I didn't serve in country, but did serve in 1974-1975 in The Netherlands. Imust say the troops of Desert Storm got a better reception coming home than those that came home from Nam. The only thing is I wished I had gone to Nam.

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TWIMC, Excellent write-up. Thank you for giving the respect that Fred deserves.

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Outstanding in all respects.....GB

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Now that the Speicher Bill (S.1339) is about to become the law of the land. . .tell us, Colonel, what you think of the reports that have surfaced regarding Commander Speicher's purported survival in Iraq, his "upgrade" from KIA/BNR to Missing in Action, and continued talk that he will be upgraded again to "Prisoner of War"? Is it your opinion here, too, that NO American POW remained in captivity? Do you refute the intelligence information that says otherwise?

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I read most of the stuff on this website. Some of it sounds pretty realistic and Mr Schlatter seems to know what he is talking about, however, he seems to have a very high opinion of his ability and a harsh tongue for anyone who disagrees with him. All in all I would maybe accept 50 percent of what he says here. The rest is just pure specualtaion and gueswork on his part.

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I came to this site for information on Garwood. What I found was more than I learned from any other source. I plan to read more in several other areas. I found the site to be both informative--and easy to use. Thank you for a better look and i hope a better understanding. David F Formanski Vietnam 69-70,70-71 (Security Police--United States Air Force)

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The San Antonio chapter of the Red River Valley Fighter Pilots was receiving 1,000 bracelets a day from VIVA in the early 70's to sell to the people of San Antonio. Eventually some of the money built the Missing Man Monument on Randolph AFB. Thank you, Carol Bates.

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Hi, I found your site and spent a while here. It's quite interesting and informative...I'll probably visit again soon. take care, chris <br><a href="http://www.daytradingworld.com"> day trading</a>

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KEEP OFF GUY MEN.

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Just returned from Asia after visits with JTF-FA , CILHI and Detachment 2. Am very pleased with what I read here, prompted in part by the results of a program I initiated here at the Army War College. Foive of the first seven Det 2 Commanders wrote Personal Experience Monographs for me although several have reserved access to them for a while. One, Mel Richmond's was read into the Congressional Record. Do not expect advocates to back off anytime soon--if ever--but really have to hand it to the people who are doing the work in the field--as dedicated a bunch as ever I've seem.

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Sorry, but I don't believe anyone who's worked for the DIA.

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I've got to hand it to you blokes boy when you get a wannabe they sure don't hold back, how do they get away with it, for so long I mean it was bad enough when we came home you guy's really got it in the neck now you've got these dirtbags claiming to be veterans stuff'em put the bastards in jail. keep up the good work. yours faithfully maurie

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Let us never forget the POW/MIA

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Read the book, Soldiers of Misfortune ISBN 0-380-72144-9 and then hit this site with a few hours of free time. Something is going on!?!

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I think your site in wonderful, and the pow/mia situation should never be forgotten. I still have my bracelet from the 70's, thank you for all the information, sincerely Pam B.

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I think your site in wonderful, and the pow/mia situation should never be forgotten. I still have my bracelet from the 70's, thank you for all the information, sincerely Pam B.

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Sir Thank you for the information on this subject. I have read both Survivors and Conversations with the Enemy, I tend to believe the gov't version of the truth. Thanks again sir.

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Dear Joe Very interesting site..could you please add more photos of alleged POWS. The one out of Tchepone, Laos of the fake bearded Caucasian POW would be excellent.. DPMO has id'd since 91 as Johnson, Lagerwall, Olsen, Stevens, a Swedish Aid Worker - everyone but the Lindberg baby.(Laos 012] Last count he was a Hungarian linguist named Gabor, identified by the VIETNAMESE BUREAU OF MISSING PERSONS whom we all love and trust. Oh, on the Gabor document I ordered from Library of Congress you guys forgot to redact this; This case must be resolved to pass public scrutiny. duh Or was that spelled screwtiny? Love you guys An amateur POW researcher

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Great site and great info. Thank you!

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Sir, As the brother of Richard Barker, I feel compelled to respond to your attack on Wildfire and our efforts regarding the P.O.W issue. I cannot fathom how you can spend such time & effort in disinformation and character assasination of those who have tried what they could in the belief that they could assist in bringing home more than a few bones from S.E . Asia. I was in China twice in 86 as Richard had his passport revoked. I spoke to many officials who were sympathetic and were willing to assist if the conditions were right. WE never contacted any family members & never asked anyone for money. Our efforts were obviously unsuccessfull and it would be fruitless to try to explain to you our attempts as you seem convinced that we were some kind of scam operation looking to milk family members. We paid a high price for the effort. As far as the transcript from Richards' court case is concerned, it was my fault that it was circulated so widely. I took it everywhere (press & public) to try to get some help for him. I regret that action as it made our attempts more public and more difficult. I feel very badly that you have to spend so much effort tring to assasinate the character of those who have tried to help resolve this issue. If people such as yourself could have found it in your heart to accept the possibility of their exhistence & used your energies & intelligence to come up with practical solutions...well..the men that so many of us believe were left behind would be home. I am long past being upset with those such as yourself who I believe are part of the problem. God bless you anyway. I think that you believe in your stance but also believe that you would be as happy as the rest of us if by some miracle, the ones that were left behind came home. Yours Truly, Ken Barker

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Great reminder ! Thanks.

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This is in response to the preceding post from "Ken Barker." Mr. Barker: There's a sports adage you need to know -- it says "You can bullshit the fans but you can't bullshit the players." I feel certain you and your brother have your fans who are enthralled at your tales of rescuing US POWs from China. I am not a fan. I'm a player and I know the score. Readers should review the article located at https://miafacts.org/wildfire.htm The fact is your brother, his friend Ha Jimmy, and "Operation Wild Fire" were a scam using "POW rescue" as a cover for something else. And that something else came to light when your brother was convicted of narotics trafficking. Does 17 pounds of "Thai stick" sound familiar? Go back to your fan club -- they'll love it.

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I just have a question. On this web site, you have a Myth and Fact Section. On the Fact Section, you have a comment that states No POW/MIAs were taken to the Soviet Union, etc. If this is the case, why, on the Library of Congress page, there is a US-Russia Joint Commission regarding POW/MIAs possibly taken there? Please correct me if I am wrong, but if it is indeed a FACT, why the trouble to form a commision? I am doing several essays and term papers regarding the Veitnam War and POW/MIAs and during my research came across this. Thanks for any response. Michelle

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Amazing that after all these years that war still haunts us. Someday we will be able to finall consign it to the history books and leave it there. In the mean time the search goes on.

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I like this sight. I believe it is well thoughout and informed. I do believe (as you point out on the first page) that these are your own views. The only problem I have is I believe that just because someone was not reported as a POW by our foes does not mean they were not POWs. Aslo is it not false logic to assume that all MIAs must be dead? Like wise is it not false logic to assume that all MIAs must be POWs. Would the logical answer not be somewhere in between? There must have been some survivors and some POWs not reported and we must conclude that some MIAs must be dead. Also with regard to mtDNA testing you make the statement that remains only need to be tested aginst the 2400+ samples of the missing men. This is not true because that assumes that throughout all of history these servicemen are the only ones ever to have gone missing in SEAsia. I do believe that your site (as well as the POW/MIA sites) are filled with alot of facts and both of you are rendering those facts to fit into your beliefs. I think the truth must be somewhere in between.

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I currently go to a military school in Alabama. These facts on your site correlate with the story of some of my insturctors who were there, in Vietnam, and even one of them who was on a POW removal flight, nit as a POW though. I applaud your efforts and wish the site the best of luck in correcting the Uban Legends about Vietnam.

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I would like to know what supporting paperwork you have to back up this horrible statement about my uncle. Do you really think the military would honor my uncle and move him up in rank each year if he was a deserter? You obviously havent been to the Portland, Oregon memorial where they give my uncle special recognition along with my grandmother who started up Operation Sweet Tooth. REMOVE this information immediately from your site regarding Bennie Lee Dexter for it is FALSE! I am only 33 but have lived my whole life hearing and reading documents from the government regarding my uncles status: MIA/POW, which would show just how wrong your comment is. You state he is dead; my family along with the government has not yet been able to confirm if he is even dead, thats why he is MIA/POW!!!!! I have a mom and grandmother who fought everyday to bring his remains home for over 20 years and we still have nothing&.. HOW DARE YOU AND SHAME ON YOU FOR PRINTING A LIE! Before you go and post something for the world to see, make sure your information is correct. Again I have documentation to show your statement is absolutely false and want this information on Bennie Lee Dexter removed immediately&&&..

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As a general rule, I do not remove comments from the guestbook -- the guestbook is here for people to speak their minds, not for me to play censor.  However, on the evening of 9-12-2002 I deleted a long, incoherent item that was posted in this spot by an individual signing the name "Anonymous."  The comment was something about the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center being caused Satanism, Nazism, and Catholicism.   While free speech and free expression are fundamental freedoms, I am paying for this space -- and -- while all ideas have the right to be expressed, not all ideas are of equal value and this one was worthless.

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all the email contacts addresses from 2002

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My name is Robin Owen Goodman, I am first the daughter of MIA Robert Duval Owen MIA Laos 5/29/1968, and secondly the ex wife of Ted Sampley. We share a 10 year old son (Owen Lane Sampley)named for my father, Ted and my father's missing team mate Glen Oliver Lane. For years I have watched the war wage between those who are adament that there were never any men left behind, and those who believe with every fiber of their bodies that there were. If you study the facts it is clear that no one reported MIA in Laos was ever returned. In sharp contrast we recieved nearly an 80% accountability for those reported MIA in the surrounding countries. In addition, how do you explain the flurry of live sighting reports from those leaving Vietnam, who came to America years apart, were not kin to one another, had nothing to gain by their stories and accountings, yet they were describing the same people in the same locations?Further, I sat through the senante hearings of 1992, which concluded that America DID knowingly leave men behind, but had no idea where they are now, or what became of them or how to bring them home. This from a goverment with satelites that can read the print of a postage stamp! Really. Let me also clear up another matter. I probably more than anyone on the face of this earth have numerous reasons to dispise Ted Sampley and speak ill of him. But when it comes to the POW issue you will never hear me discredit this man. During my divorce from Ted, Susan Keating called me and expected that I would "REVEAL" the real Ted Sampley. I told her the truth, and I will gladly share it with anyone else who is interested. It would be too involved to share here. Rest assured, I am not in love with this man, and I am happily remarried. But he, Red McDaniel, and Billy Hendon, although their tactics are not always to my approval and liking, and though their individual approaches are completely different from each other, none of these men would have scarificed their careers, livilihood, reputation etc. to make a buck! Do I believe there have been those who have lied and manipulated family members for their own purposes? Yes. At the top of this list would be the United States Government. Keeping this issue alive has done much to secure the fate of potentail POWs and MIAs. Had our government just said at the conculsion of Vietnam, America we have a problem, and treated us like intelligent,reasonable adults, we could have pulled together as a country and found a way to bring our men home then. Instead, this legendacy drags on because they they didn't support us, anymore than they supported our troops, or the people of South Vietnam that we went to protect. In the end all we did was postpone the inevitable and at a HUGE price to all involved. As we approach another war, let us all pray, that God will grant our leaders wisdom, our soldiers strenght, our nation patience and grace and the desire to support, love, encourage and welcome home ALL our soldiers. warmly, Robin

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Hey Schlatter!!!!!!What do you think of the previous article written by Robin Owen Goodman. Still thinking of some way to discredit her like you do everyone else who has a different opinion than you.

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Mr. Schlatter, While I am unsure if I agree with you 100% I have placed a link to your site here:http://cnet.thompsoninstitute.org/rsandifer/homepage/Pages/Military.html Also you have a maxlength setting of 25 in the URL field so my homepage right now will not fit. It is: http://cnet.thompsoninstitute.org/rsandifer/homepage/

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I'm an active, volunter Army Ranger!!! I'm trying to get my grandfather's name on a bracelet to give to my mother as a Christmas present. She was proud of him. He was capture by the German's at the Battle of the Bulge and spent 5 months burying bodies for the Nazis'. He was a veteran of WWII, Korea and VIetnam. You can't ask much more than that from a man. I loved the story, have always wondered about the origins. Thanks for the links for my quest, God Bless America!!!

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excellant very informative

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I am a USMC Vietnam Tanker. Sadly, I hid this fact for close to 25 years. Why? I felt like I was a looser in a loosers' world. Since my epiphany, I have read voraciously about the war in that God forsaken country. I firmly believe that if there are any MIA's from the war in Vietnam that are still alive, they are over there on their own volition. And for the others? May they rest in peace. I firmly believe that Bobby Garwood is a traitor...just like "Hanoi" Jane Fonda. Semper Fidelis...John Wear, New Hope, PA. Sgt. U.S.M.C. 3rd Tank Bn, 3rd Mar Div, 1968 - 1969.

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You're right. People with vested interests will criticize. I say, "You're right on!"

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site is excellent and have run across someone claiming to have been shot down in 65 flying a marine f4--think not-also claims to have been a pow-no listing anywhere-keep up the good work and --welcome home

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I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS SITE BECAUSE MY UNCLE WAS IN KOREA IN THE 50S,BUT UNFORTUNETLY MY UNCLE DIED BEFORE I ASKED HIM WERE HE WAS STATIONED AND WHAT WAS his job? WHEN I WAS IN THE USMC 72TO78 I WENT ON A MILI OPS IN POHANG KOREA AND I ALWAYS IMAGINED "HOW THE US ARMED FORCES COPED WITH THE LAND WEATHER AND OVERALL COMBAT CONDTIONS? I NOTICED THAT ROK ARMY PERSONNEL WERE ALLWAYS PLANTING TREES AROUND THE AREA. THE LANDSCAPE WAS KIND OF TREELESS.BUT I ALWAYS LIKED THE FIELD DUTY WITH LONG TIMES BEING THERE. LITTLE TO MY SUPRISE NOT LONG AGO I FOUND OUT ,THAT THE NORTH KOREANS HAD BUILT MANY TUNNELS UNDER THE DMZ AND WERE THERE IN 1976. WHICH IS WHEN I WAS THERE. TALK ABOUT BEING PISSED OFF I WAS." THERE COULD HAVE BEING A HOT TIME IF THE COMMIES HAD CROSSED TO THE SOUTH, BUT THANKS TO THE US ARMY COMBAT FORECES IT DID NOT HAPPEN. AS A U.S. MARINE I SAY "SEMPRE FI ",AND AS A US ARMY SOLDIER "KEEP ON GOING"

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Great site.

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Just surfing. A wise man will always change his mind . . a fool never will <a href="http://www.fckaisersaal.de">Peter from FCK</a>

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Lots of B.S. passing for info re this subject over the years. Thanks for the clarity. Vietnam was long time ago...and already eclipsed (post 9/11), of real interest only to those who were there. Sometimes it seems like just yesterday, doesn't it?

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My husband was in Viet Nam in 1967 and he sent a MIA Bracelet to my youngest sister who still has it and would like to return it to the MIA/family. The name on the Bracelet is Capt. James Mehl and the date is 5/3/67. Please if anyone knows how we can forward this treasure please contact me.

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My x-husband was in Viet Nam in 1967 and he sent a MIA Bracelet to my youngest sister when she was just 14. We would love to return the barcelet to the MIA/family. The MIA was Capt. James Mehl and the date on the baracelet was 5/30/67. Please contact me if you have any information that might get the bracelet back to the rightful owners. Thanks so much.

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Mr. Schlatter, I have read your material and find that you are as much of an asset to this country as Jane Fonda! As a 30 yr career law enforcement person and a POW (catagory I) brother, I can assure you that my investigative training and experience is far beyond your comprehension or ability. There were LIVE Americans left behind in SE Asia and they remained there due to people exactly like you. I remember your "investigating" the refugee reports via Mrs Ahn. You sir, couldn't find your out of dark barn into the light!!! Granted several people took advantage of this issue. However, I take exception to the PURE CRAP your "version" dumped on "Red McDaniels - a true American Hero! My dream is to one day look a live returned POW in the eyes and point directly in your face and tell him, "There's the reason you spent a lifetime as a Prisoner of War!"

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Great site, I got a lot of useful information in exposing a phony. Thanks and I'll definately let you know when I confront him. Once I get a definate or more collabrating evidence I plan to get the news media involved.

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Hmm... This is a great site, although i disagree that all surviving POW's were returned from Vietnam. i'm not saying you or myself are wrong or right, but claiming that they were all returned to be a FACT is misinforming, just like if i claimed the opposite to be a fact. The North Vietnamese were infamous for torturing our servicemen. Why wouldn't they move them out of their country for interrogation (and into China, a country that openly assisted the NV in any way short of full involvement)? POW's are more valuable than gold. There is no doubt in my mind that they captured a few men whom possessed crucial information. If i captured someone who knew what my enemy was going to do, i'd move him out of my country ASAP before the enemy sent people looking for him. If American POW's were sent to China, American citizens would be the last to know. They were hidden for good reason, and when you have a really good reason you never want them to be found. Nothing personal, but to claim it never happened to be a fact is ignorant. We moved VC and NVA prisoners to Japan for two good reasons. In another country, they couldnt really escape, and we didnt have to worry about someone rescuing them or killing them before interrogations were complete. Who's to say they didn't move their prisoners to China? How do you know? The Vietnamese would only deny it, because its too embarrassing for their allies (who could easily punish them), and they know theyll get away with it. The side that wins, is the side that writes the history. If the American government had knowledge of POWs still being held, they wouldnt tell us although i doubt they know crap. If they admitted that, do you know what that would do for military public relations (which would only fuel protests, draft dodging, and practically stop recruiting)? To think they would is blind faith in a lying, stealing, corrupt, and ignorant government. Dont get me wrong, i love this country and i would gladly die for our freedom, but nothing could ever get me to trust our government. Most of our politicians have only been overseas on vacations and business trips, not to risk their lives for our freedom. Few politicians today have ever braved gunfire to save a wounded buddy. Do you think its important to them if a few GIs are killed? Obviously freedom wasnt on their minds when they started drafting young men who knew why the war was being fought and didnt want to fight because they were against the war in the first place. Obviously their intentions werent honorable when they tried hiding advisor involvement at first. We have ALL been screwed over, are being screwed over, and will continue to be screwed over by the US government in countless ways. Withholding information that citizens have every right to know is common place on Capitol Hill, even long after it wouldnt matter. Thats why i find comfort knowing that a total of 44 politicians have gone to Hell on my birthday. Although there are some honest and honorable ones (although few), more than 4/5ths of our politicians lie and twist words constantly. THAT IS A FACT. If you dont believe me, look up what they say. Former prisoners have stated meeting men listed as MIA at prison sites whom to this day have not been accounted for. If the Vietnamese government were truly up front with their knowledge, those men would surely be accounted for. Still, i will not say youre wrong, because there may indeed be a legitimate reason as to why they havent been located. Maybe some escaped only to die in the jungle. If i were to claim that either of us were right, id be talking out of my ass. No-one will ever know for sure what happened to our MIAs. The only comfort many people have about the where-abouts of their fathers, brothers, sons, friends, cousins, and uncles is the possibility that they will have their answer when they are face to face with God (should one exist) in the next world (should one exist). im sorry this was so long, but like i said, you have put together a nice website, but you should know for sure before claiming something as a fact. If indeed there are prisoners still being held, then your website disregards their memory. If indeed youre right, then im waxing over people who dont exist. i would rather you be correct than myself, but until theyve all been accounted for, no-one should claim either theory as fact.

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I am a writer, currently researching for a novel based in part in Vietnam and referring to the 50s, 60s and 90s. Many thaks for this information, whether or not I use it directly it has helped at least as background. Do you, incidentally, have info or sources on the French in Hanoi towards the end of their stay, including anything on their exit which - if you credit Graham Greene - was spectacularly French? cheers, Judy Crozier

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Today I found out that AIR FORCE CAPTAIN FREDERICK JOHN SUTTER, MIA 12-31-71 had been found in 1978. I have worn his bracelet since 1971. I visited the Viet Nam Wall at Ft. Benning, Ga. today and found his name. It rained today. They say when it rains the angels are crying and I too cried when I finally had to let go of Cpt. Sutter. I hope to contact his family. I appreciate your site being here. I left Ft. Benning and came home and found you.

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Visit this site is very interested ! congratulations, very nice

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Great site!

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Colonel, Thank you for your excellent and informative site. I was briefly assigned to the I Corps MACV Order of Battle Intelligence section in Danang in the latter part of 1968. I was most interested in your information on the "Salt and Pepper" deserters supposedly seen in the I Corps area. I remember our unit receiving the field reports from units who had spotted these guys and we plotted their movements on "the Big Map". I know that the term "Salt and Pepper" was used at that time to describe them. Also, we were getting reports of a "red haired" white seen moving with the enemy. It has been a long time but I think that the term "White Cong" was also used at the time. For years I wondered what became of these individuals and your site has given me new information. I especially look forward to any new information you might post on Salt and Pepper in the future.

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Don Griffin

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Your site is good. I try to follow the MIA/POW issue and have read several books, "Kiss the Boys Goodbuy", "Why didn't you get me out" and most recently "aid and comfort" by Holzer. Still, the haunting question: Did we get all our POW's back? Don Griffin Caribou driver '66-'67

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I do not censor this guestbook -- post what you will -- HOWEVER -- I WILL delete comments that advertise work-at-home, porn, get-rid-of-your-debt, and similar spam as well as comments that do not relate to the content and purpose of this web site.  If that's what you want to post, go somewhere else.

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Kenneth Wiedenhoeft

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This brings back memories of my stay in laos, 1966 to 1968. It's quite interesting

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Thanks for the good information. Keep up this great resource. Best greetings, Lars

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Jim Niemeyer, Phu Cat '69

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Since you have been in contact with so much info regarding POWs, I was wondering if there was ever another case of someone being captured by the enemy, then U.S. forces recapturing them? This happened to a friend from high school (Don Rice, while at Firebase Mary Ann, in 71, I believe). Might there be any other such cases? He is still alive today. Jim Niemeyer

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Hello, I found you at Altavista. You have wealth of information on your site and a nice design. Greetings from Germany - Paul

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This site sounds very much like the Air Force Blue Book. NO UFOs. Whatever the excuse or reason over 90,000 men never returned home from WW2, Korea & VN. Those in charge will answer someday.

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Terry L. Powell, US Army

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Colonel, EXCELLENT website. I've been reading ALL afternoon. Served in RVN 68-69.....

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Cut and Dry Garwood is a straight out TRAITOR......

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This was really informative!!!!

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I was William Atkins' cellmate in FCI-Cumberland, Maryland. Liam was released on April 19 1999 and went to live in Marin County, CA. He had lots of great stories about Vietnam, Panama, Rhodesia, Afghanistan and POW/MIA issues. Anybody wants more info, email me. Ty Evans, Greenwood, IN 12-14-2002

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Edward W. Leonard

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As one of the LULU's captured in '68 I'm appreciate your thoughtful analysis of this long festering issue.

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Gilbert W. Glaser

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Very truthfully spoken. I had the pleasure of serving in the same squardron vs27 with then Lt. James B. Stockdale.

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Mr. Schlatter, Thanks again for keeping your site going. Gary Flanagan

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....the french expérience with Bastille sauna....

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TK Armstrong

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My father was shot down 9 November 1967 in an F-4 over Laos. The back seater (Lance Sijan) died in captivity and my father has never been recovered. Sijan was awarded a postumous CMH and a book was written about him ("Into the Mouth of the Cat"). Hendon and Garwood showed up at our house in Virginia when I was in High School (1981-83). My mom had remarried and my step-dad was stationed at the Pentagon. These guys set up an appointment, came over, showed us some of the "raw" stuff you mention, and said they could find my father. I was intrigued and my mom was a wreck. My step-dad had to come home and sort things out. He sat down and explained intelligence, interviews, credibility, etc. and made me realize these two were clowns. My step-dad was a FAC in Viet Nam and then spent a few years at Randolph AFB in the MIA/POW office. Also met Gritz in 1984 at Texas A&M where he was talking about his exploits and saying the US Govt. betrayed him often in his "quest." Stumbled across your site and found the reading informative. Keep it up. Tom

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A very informative and educating site. As for "Bobby Garwood", I sometimes wonder how people live with themselves. I also realize that our government DOES NOT tell us everything.My prayers for the MIA still unaccounted for.

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Being English and a casual historian of the period in question (Sheehan, Herr etc), I found the site most interesting. What attracted me to it was reading Tom Abraham's The Cage which promised much and appeared to deliver too much popular folklore about the life and times of an amercian soldier in Vietnam. I have no direct experience of military life or Vietnam but the account lacked any sense of reality and offered much fantasy akin to many Hollywood blockbusters. Surely there must be some colleagues of Abrahams who could confirm/deny his account of events.

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Wish to hear from any 3064th QM GR Co. who served in Japan, 1945-46.

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Mike Davino

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This is an interesting site that sheds light on an important subject. The Guest Book could be improved by adding an entry for the date and time each entry is made.

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Yianna Dell

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Really great website! Keep up the good work!

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James W. Stubblefield

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I love the site...I was one of the honor guards...with white helmets on..I have some pictures of that day....

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Wonderful amount of information.Has really helped me to be better able to spot a "wannabe"!Thanks

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This is super! Much faster loading. I periodically go through the pages and re-discover things that are important to me. Happy new year to everyone seeing this message! - - Bob

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James J Ward

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Abrahams served America well by the way his awards list reads,shame he had to go too far with prisoner story.

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In the early 1980's I met a man (whose name I'll omit for his privacy) who spent over 5 years going up the trail, finally ending his time as a POW in the Hanoi Hilton. He witnessed Robert Garwood's actions on several occasions. According to "Jim", garwood routinely went armed with either an SKS or AK. He also assisted the VC by helping them get closer to US patrols when attacking by acting as a lead for the VC. "Jim" also witnessed the death of a fellow POW as a result of Garwood's snitching to the VC about the disappearance of the camp pet cat that became dinner for the POWs. No wonder that several of the former US POWs have sworn to kill Garwood on sight. (Not actively hunting him, as I understand it, but willing to do him in if the opportunity presents itself.) Last thought: the was an excellent book titled "Survivots" that chronicles the trip up the HCM Trail for several POWs. It is currently out of print. Can anyone privide the author's name and/or tell me where I might find a copy?

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Richard Norris

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First visit

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This comment is in response to a comment left by "Steve," above. The book to which you refer is "The Survivors" by Zalin Grant. Amazon.com lists it as out of print. You may be able to find a copy by ordering from Amazon; they will search for the book through their network of used book dealers. I have a copy and I recommend the book, not just for it's description of Garwood's activities as a member of PAVN, but also for the description of how US POWs survived -- and how some did not survive.

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I found this site when I was looking for an old friend that ment very much to me when I was young.I met John Barilla and Michael not long after they arived to Sweden,so I know that that first part of your long site is true.I belive the rest is true too because I have heard some of it from the boys(boys in those days)I have wonderd all thees years what has become of John.Please if anyone knows contact me. Kicki

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I found this site when I was looking for an old friend that ment very much to me when I was young.I met John Barilla and Michael not long after they arived to Sweden,so I know that that first part of your long site is true.I belive the rest is true too because I have heard some of it from the boys(boys in those days)I have wonderd all thees years what has become of John.Please if anyone knows contact me. Kicki

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After 35 years and been the so called lucky one to come home I can't believe how quick we ready to get back into it ..theres no glory in combat..I'm still fighting my demonds for Nov.67/Dec.68..left to many and seen to many friends lost and mia to know that we are willing to do it all over again and for what...I'm mean for what again you are been led by the white house..its not terrerisam its all about oil...yes the home front should be protected but at our boarders not other lands..do we what to loose more of our love ones..

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A great web site serving good purposes. Greetings to all.

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In 1970 I was a freshman in high school. The vietnam war was a huge issue. I wanted to help in some way but was not sure how. I heard about the POW/MIA bracelets and purchased one. I lived in a very small town in Oregon and received the name of a man who was MIA but even more touching to me was the fact that this man had grown up in the same small town in Oregon that I lived, attended the same high school and was a childhood friend of my father's. In 1991 I went to Washington D.C. and visited the Vietnam Memorial Wall. I have never been so moved by anything as I did the day I found the name of the man whose bracelet I wore for years. As I was taking a rubbing of his name a woman with two children approached me. She asked me to explain to her children what I was doing and asked me if I was somehow related to the man. I told her no I wasn't and as I began to retell my story to her I couldn't hold back the tears. Although I never knew him I felt a strong connection. After returning home I tried to reach someone in his family, I thought they might want the bracelet and the rubbing of his name. I never received any response. This sight is very wonderful...It reminds us of how terrible war really is. May we never forget the men and women who fought and those who lost their lives. I still have the bracelet of Major John Brucher, I will always remember him, he holds a special place in my heart.

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Joe, Read your guest book. Think you need a comment from me. You sir are in the dark and dead wrong on many of your "facts". I have no idea who you really are or what your agenda is? I can tell you this, I would be willing to put my evidence up against yours anytime. You may bury your head in the sand, but the truth will still be the truth. Terrible T

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On Moonbeam when Baron 52 went down.

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I think its GREAT!

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Thank you for your honorable work. I'll think of you when I don't sit at the POW/MIA table in the mess hall.

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David

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great web site well done

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Lewis Rischin

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I think you site is great. All of your points were well taken. I loved every word that you wrote. Thanks for standing up to the phonies out there. SSgt M Gaffney USAF

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i think it is a good site that depicts the falseness of the government and also shows me that some of my ancesters were invalved in the armed forces

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Dear Stuart just emailed the address. I am happy to be able to learn about something unexpected today: MEN. Looking around in old Germany I have the strong feeling to be surrounded by "Weicheiern" - if you know what I mean! Congratulations to this website!

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i was sent by bob morris from 1st recon bn. 1st marine div. i was there 69-70. great site!

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I found your site very intresting, especially the information on Robert Garwood, I wanted to believe he was a "forgotten" POW, but the evidence says other wise. My dad served in the Marines, he saw a lot of "action" in the A Shau, now that I am older, I am trying to understand what it was like. I am also intrested in the "Salt & Pepper" myth, it would make a good read.

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John Lewis

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Im so glad they POW/MIA are not forgotten in this day and age!!

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Re: Tom Abraham. I am a British ex-pat living in Bahrain and receive BBC World news. We all watched an interview on 'Hardtalk' with Mr. Abraham and were fascinated and saddened by his story. As a result I bought his book, at some expense from the UK (not available in Bahrain) Now I read it is a work of fiction!!! I am totally gutted. How about a refund Mr. Abraham???? Or, can you please explain yourself...

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good site.visit...

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Robin Lloyd

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I was at the same school as Tom Abraham. In our school army corp capture was a humilation. In the UK there is no pride in being a POW. Never has been never will be. I sincerely doubt that Tom fabricated the story of his capture. Those that knew thw guy will tell you that It's about as likely as a Jap being proud of capture which is pretty unlikely!

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Iain Bull

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Can someone please tell me why there is no record of T Abraham being a POW!! I've just read his book and found the whole experiance quit something to read, but I can't understand why he would me up such a story!! Can anyone recomend a good book about Nam? I live in london but it shouldn't make much difference.

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Joan Ellisor

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I have a bracelet for Capt. John Nasmyth and just found out today that he was released on 2/18/73. Brought tears to my eyes even at this late date to know he made it out.

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Patrice Lauren

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Thanks for the straightforward MIA info. I expected to find myths, and I really appreciate FACTS. I'm a writer, working on a story about history repeating itself. Good Job!

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Kimi Arnold

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This is a great informative site. I served in the Air Force for 6 years and I received my bracelet in 1993.

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Anita Marie

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Thanks for the lead on requesting information listed on my POW bracelet, I hope the outcome for my serviceman was positive and happy for him and his loved ones !

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Lawrence Samuel Tyo

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Pray for the MIA

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James R Ansbach

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Kevin Purnell

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This is a very informative site. I have a question for Paul Rifenberg who posts here from time to time. Has Mark Smith brought home the 572 POW's he claims he has knowledge of?

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Tom Kimball

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Hi, Just check out website. My father then Lt.Christopher V Kimball TDY Ft. Hood, TX Project MASSTER-STANO U.S. Army Project Mobile Army Sensor Systems Test, Evaluation and Review - Surveillance Target Acquisition and Night Observation Time period 1969-1970 He was an Signal Corps Officer with the Army Security Agency Support Group working out on NSA. I like studing these things. I'm his son. I enjoy hearing from people that worked on this systems. Thanks

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Just found the POW Bracelet I had bought during the Vietnam War. Can anyone please supply me with info on getting it return the the person named on it, or his family? Name of bracelet is Lt. Col. ERICH ENGELHARD Thank You.

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David R Parks

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I think that the MIA section is pretty good. I spent two tours in Viet-Nam and I wouldn't think to highly of someone who deserted from our military.

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James H. Pratt, CPT, SC, MI ARNG

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Is anyone selling new POW bracelets for our Iraq War captured? PFC Patrick Miller, captured 3/23/2003 Iraq

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Cindy Kersey

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Thank you for your efforts to remember our military men and women and their service to our country. Will there be bracelets available for our new POW's?

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Melissa Bradbury

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My heart and prayers go out to all veterans.. Especially the Pow's. Melissa

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For Shoshanna Johnson POW as of 03/03

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Jack Kapanka

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My Grandfather served in the Army during WW1. My father served in the Navy in the 50's. I would have proudly served our country as well but I was born blind. I gained sight in my right eye at the age of two. I wrote this poem/song to say thank you to all those who serve our great nation. I would be honored if you could help me share my sentiments with them. Thank You! Jack Kapanka What They Gave To Me By Jack Kapanka I saw it on the TV late one night A war broke out we were joining the fight My head grew heavy My heart stood still The thought of it gave me one hell of a chill I prayed for the soldiers as they left through the night Scared as can be yet so ready to fight There was Mark and Bob, Billy and Joe It damn near killed me just to see them go They all headed out to a foreign land Each boy carrying a gun in his hand They fought for freedom 'cross the shinning sea So many gave their lives just so we could see America is the land of the free It's the best damn place in the world to be America is the home of the brave I feel so lucky for What they gave to me They all grew up with dreams in their head Lessons to be learned So much to be said Told that here in the land of the free Do what you want be who you want to be It hasn't been so easy now the world is changing oh so fast It's time to learn from what mistakes we've made And try to not forget the past My son looked up at me the other day He asked me a question in an innocent way Daddy what's the matter with the man next door He's got a black and white flag hanging from his door It says POW/MIA Daddy why's he crying will he be ok I turned to my boy looked in his eye Then I told him what I'd seen in the years gone by I said a long time ago to a foreign land A young boy left to become that man He fought for freedom 'cross the shinning sea He would have given his life just so we could see America is the land of the free It's the best damn place in the world to be America is the home of the brave I feel so lucky for What They Gave To Me Thank you for keeping me free! To listen to the song please visit; www.jackkapanka.com

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I was the Director of the VIVA Office in New York in the early 70's. Once the war ended interest dwindled, we reduced the operationalscope of the office and I continued to be active with the organization as a volunteer on the lecture circuit and wnet on Active Duty. I spoke with carol a few years agao and talk with ann Mills periodically. It was a an outstanding effort, and succesfule at that, by Carol, Steve and Gloria to keep focus on the issue. It made a difference. I used to tell my audience that "there were only two periods in our immediate history that the American people were joined together totally, during the depression and during Pearl Harbor, The bracelt made history, because it joined all factions in our society together in one comon issue...the humanitarian issue of accountability and fair treatment of our Prisoners of War and Missing in Action". The best to you and your endeavors on spreading he word.

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Thank you sooo much, I have been looking for a long time for the information I found on here.

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I bought one of your bracelets and wore it every day. Also, I have printed out this history concerning the bracelets and together I placed the paper with the bracelet in my keepsake box. Thanks for doing making the bracelets. The bracelet helped me to pray for the POWS every day.

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Ronnie Young, Jr., (Lithia Springs, GA), POW now in Iraq is the son of a co-worker of mine. We are praying for everyone in the war for freedom. May they all return home and God watch over each soul. (Georgia)

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very nice site, i will be back

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Good news! We just got one back from the bad guys, Id love to hear the Privates de-brief from her time in Irac.

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I served in MACSOG JPRC from Aug 67-68. Was involved in numerous attempted recovery ops, including one in Ban Me Thuot that recovered 11 South Vietnamese POWs. I concur with your conclusions and wish they would put the controversy about POW/MIAs to rest. Unfortunately, I don't think anything will. Fred Seamon LTC, USA (Ret.)

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great site. i was looking for a bracelet for the american P.O.W.'s in iraq but realized we still have unclaimed soldiers from vietnam. thank you for this info. i want to buy a bracelet from the vietnam era.

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Great site full of information.

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Nice article on the origin of the bracelets. I encourage everyone to get a currenet one and wear it until our men and women come home.

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Give the man a break. This site nit picks over trivialities.

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I would like to have info on Billy Rivers Penn, who spent time as POW in Korea, and was released to come home and be a doctor. Delivered 2 kids for me. Thanks

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Just a little personal history to let you know how your bracelets impacted my life as a young child. I was in elem. school in Austin, Tx during the Viet Nam war. My father made arrangements for me to get a POW bracelet. My POW's name was Capt. James Rowe. As a young girl, I remember watching the news each night and looking for Capt. Rowe's name on the long list of names that scrolled down the screen, hoping to see that his status had changes to being found. I remember one day we found out that Capt. Rowe's status had changed to KIA. Not long after that my f ather read in the Austin newspaper that Capt. James Rowe was from Austin, TX and that a memorial service was to be held for him. Dad and I attended the memorial service and I remember it to this day. I kept that newspaper clipping of his service as well as the bulletin and a yellow ribbon received at the service. Today, I proudly display many American (and Texas) flags in my home, but my favorite flag is the American flag fully displayed on the wall with Capt. James Rowe's POW bracelet, the newspaper clipping, the memorial service bulletin and the yellow ribbon displayed with the flag. Your inspiration to produce the bracelets made a lasting impression on my life. The sacrifice for freedom that so many have so freely given is a high price never to be forgotten. Thank you. Janna Lilly

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I will purchase a bracelet as soon as I find a source. I admire your courage in sticking to your plans for this program to help yourself and others. God Bless America where we can dream and realize their coming true.

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I ordered and received a POW bracelet for Spc. Shoshana Johnson. My understanding is it is not to be removed until they come home. Does that mean when they hit U.S. shores or come home into the company of fellow soliders? Also, I need to find out the protocol for returning it to her! It brings me great joy and a huge smile to say that! Anyone who knows, please email me.

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I am still ill at ease with regard to intentions on both sides of the military court!!!

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A very great website, congratulations !!

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I just found my bracelet Capt Donald Brown 7-30-70, I didn't realize how many of these you had made, I sure miss the 70's and thanks for doing something great.

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Great site. Bobyy and I had occasion to met several years ago but I lost track of him. thanks for the update.

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Fidel Castro... helping terrorism??? http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/cubas.htm Also, yours is a nice site, by the way!

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You should really get all of your facts straight regarding Mr. Daly and Minnesota Won't Forget. It is pathetic that you are allowing someone as obviously bitter as Mr. Fellows to ruin the reputation of Mr.Daly, MN Won't Forget, and its former executive director, as well as their families. Shame on you, Schlatter. I can't deign the resect of "Mr." in front of your name.

 

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This comment is directed to the anonymous comment directly above.  You should really understand: (1) the facts are straight, and, (2) I ignore comments from people who don't have the balls to sign their name.

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Hello, im vanessa 15years old and iam searching for my dad, all informations i have are in my homepage. Please take a minute and read it, maybe you can help me! Here is my homepage: www.hpm.freehomepage.de/members/vanessafreier ....And here is my e-mail: [email protected]

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I am 31 years old and never seen combat but am discusted that our country would just try to forget these men. IT IS WRONG! Why all the cover up and lieing? I quess it is cya for those who started it.

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many thanks. Very informative.

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Keep up this great resource. I bookmark your site, best greetings.

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great site....keep up the good work...its easy to understand why people would want to believe some of the stories floating aound, hoping someday they will come home alive....but a site like yours grounded in reality, helping to sift through some of the BS is a good service to us all.

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AS A LONG TIME FRIEND OF JOYCE APODACA I'LL BE INTERESTED TO READ WHAT TOU HAVE POSTED.

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hi thank you for doing this site i can honestly say i dont agree with most stuff on mia's it still made an intresting read.for many years after both wars in veitnam there have been sighting of pow being moved around and of familys spending untold anounts to shady people for information that leads them no where.i think to little has been done too late and if there was any pows left they will be some age if not died in the many years that have followed. i also dont see why people have to be so nasty to wards you for doing this sight? if you dont like it dont read it people thats freeeeeeeedom isnt it?

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1st/35th 4th/ Division Thank You To All VETS

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Cool. I served in the Air National Guard during the Viet Nam war. I never, NEVER, tell anyone different. My brother-in-law and his BIL served in VN. I could not bring myself to tell any lies about my record. My father flew the "HUMP" in WWII. i have his records. What kind of man would lie about his performance.

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Trying to find out if it is possible to repalce the braclet I have been wearing since 88 with the same persons name. I got the orginal from the Natl. League of Familes Ohio Chapter. Any help would be appreaciated.

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Joe, best wishes to you and your family...I remember the good times and the trip to Vietnam... Bill

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First, I have only gratitude, admiration and respect for the guts and price paid by any/all POW/MIAs of all the operations causing them to be in those catagories and deep sadness for those that never returned because this excuse for government turned it's back on them, more than once. I just finished reading "Spite House" and have also looked at much of what you present online to counter and rebuke the claims made in the book. You have no qualms about how you respond and admittedly, you have a lot of good information on your pages, but I have no qualms either about saying I think you're a typical lying, pompous government ass! Just for starters, and you were a part of it because you were part of the problem, "http://www.aiipowmia.com/reports/gnsrpt.html" reveals the mindset of government to discredit almost all sightings instead of evaluating them openly. It also covers Garwood and states "No other American source meets this qualification." You repeatedly talk of all the bullshit lies by others, yet you equal and surpass them with the same holier-than-thou attitude that GWB, Jr. does Clinton. This excuse for government wouldn't lie to us? And fucking elephants roost in trees too! Lastly, you defend and support one of the REAL traitorous collaborators, John McCain, and say there's no valid proof to any of the accusations made. OK, here're some URLs with his own words: "http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm" "http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm" "http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j092999.html" "http://www.ipsystems.com/powmia/news95/junenews.html" "http://www.lambsmeadow.com/mccain.html" Tomorrow is the day we say "Thank you" to veterans (Yes, I am) especially those that paid with their lives so we could live. Thank God they weren't of your caliber!

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Valuable site, keep up the good work.

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awsome site

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i think it is a good sight,but am disappointed that i can not look up the person on my bracelet.i would like to look up on my own what his status is.your sight is good for the soul.

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I would like to shead just a little bit of information regarding Mark Smith and Melvin McIntyre. I served with both in Korea, 18th Detachment (currently known as Det-K). The author of Kiss the Boys Goodbye never interviewed me or anyone else that was in Det-K during this time frame. Even if they had no one would have said anything derogatory about Smith or Mac at that time. But now it has been 2 decades and someone should set the record straight. Smith and Mac are quite a pair. Smith actually thought he had the skinny on MIA's from bogus con men in Thailand. He was being scammed from professional con artists that hung around Lucy's Tiger Den. Smith never produced ANY evidence to prove the existence of MIA's. When he reported to his Commander his information concerning MIA's he had some cock and bull story that only he could recover the MIA's and that he alone had to meet them at the border. I witnessed Smith being orally repremanded by his superiors on several occasions. He was told to stop playing loner hero and turn any evidence he had in so that professional agencies could act upon it. Smith refused and said he alone was the only person that his Thai contact would allow to pick up the three MIA's. Smith's refusal to turn over any evidence except bar rumors from Thailand made his superiors tell him to knock off the rambo crap unless he had more than stories from old drunk expats from Thailand. Smith and his non-existing evidence was throughly discredited by his immediate superiors and he was told no more Thai trips until further notice. Smith's ego was bruised by SF commanders and he was considered a nut case by everyone in the unit. Smith decided to sue the President of the US. It is true that Smith was blackballed by the Army (even though officially it is denied) and forced to retire. He was not blackballed because he had any valid MIA evidence, he was blackballed because he was a loose cannon and refused to obey his superiors orders. As we all know, Smith had no evidence at the congressional hearings either. I think a combination of Smith being a POW and wanting to believe their were MIA's made him an easy target to con. Mac, on the other hand, was a completely different story. Mac was not well liked by his team members. He kissed Smith's ass and therefore Smith took him on all his Thai TDY's. Mac was a medic and had no experience or qualifications to do Intelligence gathering. Neither did Smith. The only intelligence gathering they did took place in bars. Mac went on the Thai TDY's for the pussy and booze. If anyone had bothered to actually investigate Mac's military conduct and background they would have easily found that Mac was disliked by everyone on the team. Mac never attended the Sunday skydiving that everyone else on the team attended at Misari DZ. He preferred to get drunk instead. He routinely would miss the LZ on almost every HAHO jump by at least a few miles. He was arrested for exposing himself to minors. Mac claims he was just sunbathing nude on his roof, but the Korean police have a different story. Mac was also charged with stabbing a civilian GS worker with a cooking fork at a unit BarBque. The author of the Kiss the Boys Goodbye neglected to mention these facts. Mac was passed over for promotion for 10 years, but that wasn't mentioned either. Mac didn't believe the MIA stories either, but he never thought Smith was going to take it to such extremes. Mac went along to get along. As long as he could get a TDY for pussy and booze he didn't care what Smith said or did. But when Smith filed a suit Mac had already been supporting Smith's fantasies for so long and was in to deep that he had no choice but to go along or be humiliated and exposed as a fraud. Where is Mac today? Mac is hiding in the Philippines, on the run from the law for attempted murder in Korea. He slashed the throat of an unarmed guy in a bar. You can read about this in the Stars and Stripes newspaper. Just type in Mac's name on their website and read the newspaper article yourself. Mac has been totally discredited. Smith has never done anything with his life after his discharge except appoint himself as an MIA expert and Mac is a wanted criminal facing 10-15 years for attempted murder. So now you know what these two loser who tried to sue the President of the United States are doing now.

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at a young age my father fought in the Vietnam war. he married an American women detestable to the Vietnams culture and we where not accepted as family, and he left us. but he only returned after his brother died and there was no one to pass on the family name, but his son! he was a cold hard man.... and i hated him my whole life for all he was and did. i would cry and cry every night hoping that my father would love me like he loved my brother but he didn't and thetas all he cared about was his precious little son. i would ask my Mom why he was like that and IM just really beginning to understand why he is the way he is. even though my mother would tell me day after day. it was the war that made him cold and bitter. It was his country, his upbringing, and his culture that made him not love me too why he didn't love me.but he never talked about the war. Or his culture so i never understood ... but if any Vietnamese man or women out there would like to explain what it was like please e-mail me.

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your a lying piece of shit,obviously employed by our lying piece of shit politicians to slander real heroes,robert garwood was a scapegoat for the bureaucratic farse we call our government.die pigs

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How much did the government pay you to post this site?

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Like the site a lot.As with the South African SF site, I really enjoyed the "wall of shame" which I believe originated with you guys.As quoted in your site somewhere, I too have met more SFO's than were ever qualified. Exposing these liars is wonderful.

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Great site with some very compelling information on Baron 52. I keep researching the incident and hope to someday know all the facts. db

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I stumbled upon your website and want to thank you for your straightforward approach to the POW-MIA hysteria. You have researched and detailed everything that I always suspected about the subject. Thank you for setting the record straight.

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Interesting site. I have become interested in the POW/MIA issue as a result of the capture and brief captivity of a classmate of mine in the late war, namely PFC Patrick Miller. I am glad to read a different perspective than the one offered on the majority of the POW/MIA sites. I read with particular amusement the section on Bo Gritz and his antics in Southeast Asia. Like they say, it takes all kinds. In any event I believe it is of the utmost importance that our heroes are found and laid to rest in a place of honor. Maybe some are alive, maybe not. I hope that you are right when you say that all the living Americans were released by the Vietnamese government, but still I shudder at the thought that our nation might have abandoned a living serviceman. Even so, I fear it is too late for any such men and/or women. I hope that if any such people did exist they can find it in their hearts to forgive us. Whatever the case, the bottom line is and must always be that the government must do its very best by our veterans and their families, whether they be missing on a distant continent half a world away or right next door.

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I am reading the book now and always had suspisions that he was a bit of a bullshiter

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Thanks so much for the information!

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I REALLY LOVE YOUR WEB SITE. KEEP IT UP.

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took me back many years had some hard feelings that have been gone for a long time. Keep up the good work.

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I was a Security Policeman at Bien Hoa AB.One of our posts was at the BX checking ID and ration cards as GIs came in. We had an "outstanding deserters list" that we were suppose to utilize when needed. There was about 700 names on that list and I always wondered what happen to those guys when the war was over.

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Let me start off by saying your site has a lot of content. I spent a couple hours trying to absorb as many of the articles I could. I have read many pro and anti POW/MIA articles and websites, and I don't think you're right. While I firmly believe that many of the approximately 1,880 men who are missing in SE Asia died, I also believe that of the nearly 88,000 who disappeared since WWII, some were captured and never released. There are too many incidents and examples to suggest otherwise. In 1995 I believe (I may be wrong, but there was an aiipow/mia news article) a former South Korean soldier escaped to the South after 53 some years of imprisonment. The North Koreans didn't release all the men they captured. By the way, if the SEREX sat photos are so inconclusive, why can't we see them? I like to see original proof, not a rough sketch before i come to conclusions. Thank you, Peter M

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This is a good site although I strongly disagree with your views. The USG has lied on this issue; a point being with LCDR Michael Scott Speicher, United States Navy. I encourage you to read the book "No One Left Behind - The LCDR Michael Scott Speicher Story" by Amy Waters Yarsinske. I believe PFC Garwood was scapegoated by the USG just to make him an example (partly because he was so junior). It's been my experience that the more senior the individual the more tendancy there is for that person's wrongdoing to be covered up (a sad and unfortunate fact of life in the military). I am retired military having spend my time in the Navy from 1978-2003 and was fortunate enough to never had to serve in Vietnam.

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Bugger. Was half way through Tom Abraham's book 'The Cage' when things just didn't seem right, so I checked the web and came across your expose' of him. Beats me why these blokes have to embellish their records. For crying out loud - 12 months in country gets respect from everyone - especially when a lot of that time was in the bush with a rifle coy. He's got enough genuine decorations to sink a ship - so why all the crap about being a POW?

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Interesting Site. But Tom Abraham said since he was only MIA for a couple of days - the List wasn't sent to HQ for processing..? Is that incorrect too?? email me with a resonse if you like.

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What a great ressource! I'll have look around. The Game Master http://www.grazat.dk

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I still have my Viet Nam bracelet, and there are many times that I wear it just to remember the man that is still MIA, Sgt. Harry Coen who went MIA on 5/12/68.

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It's pretty sad that an educated man like yourself fills his days dedicating huge web pages to slandering the good name of a fellow soldier. I would have expected more from a man in the military. In the Air Force we live and operate by a quote that goes like this, "We take care of our own." That is what I suggest you do sir......take care and be proud of the men who served next to you. Bo certainly didn't get all those medals on his chest by being a compulsive liar. If the United States Government didn't think he was worthy of all that he has, they certainly would not have given him as much as they did. It's bitter, viscious, self-rightous people who leave a bad taste in people's mouths; and it's people like yourself who want to taint history because you're upset someone got more glory than you did. The only reason sir that you are not fond of Col. Gritz is because he has balls enough to say and do what everyone else in the government wants to no matter how much resistance he gets. He was a great leader, and sheep like yourself can learn a lot from him.

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Dear Joe: why don't you come clean about the documents you were told to destroy. The documents on Live POW's long after the war. If you don't i will.

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very impressed-very informative

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